Comments on: Harvard Educated Professor Kills Faculty Colleagues: Second Amendment of the Constitution traveled from Massachusetts to Alabama http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/ Transparency, corruption and governance matters, evidence-based Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:17:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Richard Allen Pierce http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-18949 Richard Allen Pierce Mon, 31 May 2010 19:43:00 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-18949 You still don’t get it. You still don’t understand the purpose of the Second Amendment. If you did then you would be calling for every American to be armed with every weapon that the average soldier is issued. Incidents such as this are unavoidable. You cannot legislate morality or someone going off their rocker. I am far more fearful of governments under the control of a Looney than I am of the rare citizen miss-using their firearms. You might want to check out the work of Professor Rummel with the University of Hawaii. See http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/GENOCIDE.ENCY.HTM. His findings show that governments between 1900 and 1999 have killed approximately 262,000,000 of their own citizens. Citizens that the government determined were not politically aligned with their ideology. It’s a duty of every citizen to protect him or her self. In this case there are a couple of points to make. First I believe you’ll find that Harvard is a gun free zone. Professor Bishop was not allowed to carry a firearm on campus to begin with. The law did not stop her so what makes you think that any other law would have prevented this? You might want to ask the question, why is it that this type of shooting only occurs in gun free zones? If she knew that the other professors had arms and knew how to use them, do you think she would have tried what she did? Second, where the police? Didn’t someone call 911? This shows that only you are responsible for your own safety. The Police are great after a crime is committed, but in most cases they cannot prevent crime. I see someone posted a bunch of crimes or accidents by firearms. Why not also post some of the 2.5 million defensive uses of guns each year? See http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/stats.html http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/ You still don’t get it. You still don’t understand the purpose of the Second Amendment. If you did then you would be calling for every American to be armed with every weapon that the average soldier is issued. Incidents such as this are unavoidable. You cannot legislate morality or someone going off their rocker. I am far more fearful of governments under the control of a Looney than I am of the rare citizen miss-using their firearms. You might want to check out the work of Professor Rummel with the University of Hawaii. See http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/GENOCIDE.ENCY.HTM. His findings show that governments between 1900 and 1999 have killed approximately 262,000,000 of their own citizens. Citizens that the government determined were not politically aligned with their ideology.

It’s a duty of every citizen to protect him or her self. In this case there are a couple of points to make. First I believe you’ll find that Harvard is a gun free zone. Professor Bishop was not allowed to carry a firearm on campus to begin with. The law did not stop her so what makes you think that any other law would have prevented this? You might want to ask the question, why is it that this type of shooting only occurs in gun free zones? If she knew that the other professors had arms and knew how to use them, do you think she would have tried what she did? Second, where the police? Didn’t someone call 911? This shows that only you are responsible for your own safety. The Police are great after a crime is committed, but in most cases they cannot prevent crime.

I see someone posted a bunch of crimes or accidents by firearms. Why not also post some of the 2.5 million defensive uses of guns each year? See http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/stats.html http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/

]]> By: estetik http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-16893 estetik Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:07:15 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-16893 very good article. thank you for this post admin very good article.
thank you for this post admin

]]> By: TINA http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-13623 TINA Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:25:24 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-13623 ...Bottom line she has taken 4 lives...her brother's and three colleagues. I vote for the death penalty and perhaps this will set an example for all professors across America who "think" they are above the law due to their educational status. Several have witness enough of this behavior with a "few" professors who has abused their status and exhibited unprofessional behavior when they don't get what they "think" they deserve. ...Just remember this...the four lives she has taken are not here to see their husbands, wives, and love ones. …Bottom line she has taken 4 lives…her brother’s and three colleagues. I vote for the death penalty and perhaps this will set an example for all professors across America who “think” they are above the law due to their educational status. Several have witness enough of this behavior with a “few” professors who has abused their status and exhibited unprofessional behavior when they don’t get what they “think” they deserve. …Just remember this…the four lives she has taken are not here to see their husbands, wives, and love ones.

]]> By: Kaufmann http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-11952 Kaufmann Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:40:10 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-11952 From today, Tuesday, February the 23rd, just a few illustrative, yet troubling gun items in the newswires now: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587282,00.html http://www.ny1.com/9-staten-island-news-content/top_stories/114099/four-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide/ http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.10693/title.hot-boy-turks-younger-brother-murdered-family-needs-assistance http://www.essence.com/news/breaking_news/jayson_williams_given_to_5_years_for_fat.php http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Trenton-Troubled-Over-Murder-Of-Mother/KXYHu9g5TE6v_Lzfq0GAXA.cspx http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/01/31/2010-01-31_teen_grazed_by_bullet_leads_cops_to_murdered_bronx_girl_cops_hunt_for_suspect.html http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/DA-considers-North-Beach-fatal-crash-case-84977997.html http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/02/20/2010-02-20_coming_soon_to_a_national_park_near_you_loaded_guns.html From today, Tuesday, February the 23rd, just a few illustrative, yet troubling gun items in the newswires now:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587282,00.html

http://www.ny1.com/9-staten-island-news-content/top_stories/114099/four-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide/

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.10693/title.hot-boy-turks-younger-brother-murdered-family-needs-assistance

http://www.essence.com/news/breaking_news/jayson_williams_given_to_5_years_for_fat.php

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Trenton-Troubled-Over-Murder-Of-Mother/KXYHu9g5TE6v_Lzfq0GAXA.cspx

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/01/31/2010-01-31_teen_grazed_by_bullet_leads_cops_to_murdered_bronx_girl_cops_hunt_for_suspect.html

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/DA-considers-North-Beach-fatal-crash-case-84977997.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/02/20/2010-02-20_coming_soon_to_a_national_park_near_you_loaded_guns.html

]]> By: Get a clue http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-11885 Get a clue Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:18:23 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-11885 "Assume hypothetically that the same Amy Bishop, after obtaining her Harvard Ph. D., would have been offered a teaching position in a European university... the probability of her having inflicted as much lethal damage over a whole academic department would have been much lower, mostly because it may have been so much more difficult to obtain and carry weapons with such ease." Absolutely not - this is not the reality of our world. In that scenario, if she wanted to shoot someone, she would obtain a gun through non-legal means. The only difference would be an illegal seller profiting form the sale as opposed to a legal dealer. The gun is not the problem, the crazy bitch is the problem. “Assume hypothetically that the same Amy Bishop, after obtaining her Harvard Ph. D., would have been offered a teaching position in a European university… the probability of her having inflicted as much lethal damage over a whole academic department would have been much lower, mostly because it may have been so much more difficult to obtain and carry weapons with such ease.”

Absolutely not – this is not the reality of our world. In that scenario, if she wanted to shoot someone, she would obtain a gun through non-legal means. The only difference would be an illegal seller profiting form the sale as opposed to a legal dealer. The gun is not the problem, the crazy bitch is the problem.

]]> By: Kaufmann http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-11778 Kaufmann Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:14:59 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-11778 Thanks -- comments appreciated, and so is the debate, which prompted me to continue on this in the next post entry, 'Guns, uninterrupted', here: http://thekaufmannpost.net/guns-uninterrupted/ Thanks — comments appreciated, and so is the debate, which prompted me to continue on this in the next post entry, ‘Guns, uninterrupted’, here: http://thekaufmannpost.net/guns-uninterrupted/

]]> By: Jim Wesberry http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-11749 Jim Wesberry Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:40:00 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-11749 The United States has a very difficult historical and constitutional problem with gun control. At the country's founding privately owned guns were considered indispensable for both personal protection and readiness for militia participation in defense of the nation. Thus the 2nd Amendment was placed in the Bill of Rights, its location among the ten amendments indicating the importance founders placed upon it. Guns were also used by many to provide sustenance for their families so there was no opposition to the right to bear arms until more recent years. Now we are faced with two great problems: (1) modern rapid fire arms capable of massacring multitudes of persons in minutes, and (2) life's complexity and pressures causing many persons to lose control of their temperaments and use guns in the process. From "road rage" shootings to student...and now even professorial vengeance murders, we are losing control of the means of protecting ourselves from ourselves. Here is the latest fiasco in point: "The federal government will lift long-standing restrictions on guns in national parks Monday, meaning that visitors with proper permits could pack heat along with camping and picnic gear to most of the 392 parks. The move concerns current and former employees of the National Park Service who are convinced that the move will damage the spirit of the nation's park system." (WaPo, 2/19/10). This really leaves me speechless, so I'll say no more. The United States has a very difficult historical and constitutional problem with gun control. At the country’s founding privately owned guns were considered indispensable for both personal protection and readiness for militia participation in defense of the nation. Thus the 2nd Amendment was placed in the Bill of Rights, its location among the ten amendments indicating the importance founders placed upon it. Guns were also used by many to provide sustenance for their families so there was no opposition to the right to bear arms until more recent years.
Now we are faced with two great problems: (1) modern rapid fire arms capable of massacring multitudes of persons in minutes, and (2) life’s complexity and pressures causing many persons to lose control of their temperaments and use guns in the process. From “road rage” shootings to student…and now even professorial vengeance murders, we are losing control of the means of protecting ourselves from ourselves.
Here is the latest fiasco in point:
“The federal government will lift long-standing restrictions on guns in national parks Monday, meaning that visitors with proper permits could pack heat along with camping and picnic gear to most of the 392 parks. The move concerns current and former employees of the National Park Service who are convinced that the move will damage the spirit of the nation’s park system.” (WaPo, 2/19/10).
This really leaves me speechless, so I’ll say no more.

]]> By: D http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-11608 D Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:52:32 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-11608 The lady could have just as easily walked in there with a large kitchen knife in her pocket and killed people. We shouldn't attack the laws of the land. What we should do is enforce penalties for people's actions. In the long run, the people would probably be less apt to commit crimes. In todays judicial mire, no one is truly held accountable. Sure, they go to prison, but they are still alive, get phone calls, tv, beds, etc... But, the court will probably determine she is mentally challenged, crazy, insane, etc... Then it was not her fault..Right??! Then who's fault is it? Maybe it is the highly touted educational system that engrained in her to achieve "greatness" no matter what is in your way. How dare them turn down tenure to a PhD.. Where did she gain her education... oh, Harvard you say? ... The lady could have just as easily walked in there with a large kitchen knife in her pocket and killed people. We shouldn’t attack the laws of the land. What we should do is enforce penalties for people’s actions. In the long run, the people would probably be less apt to commit crimes. In todays judicial mire, no one is truly held accountable. Sure, they go to prison, but they are still alive, get phone calls, tv, beds, etc… But, the court will probably determine she is mentally challenged, crazy, insane, etc… Then it was not her fault..Right??! Then who’s fault is it? Maybe it is the highly touted educational system that engrained in her to achieve “greatness” no matter what is in your way. How dare them turn down tenure to a PhD.. Where did she gain her education… oh, Harvard you say? …

]]> By: Sam http://thekaufmannpost.net/harvard-educated-professor-kills-faculty-colleagues-second-amendment-from-alabama-and-massachusetts/comment-page-1/#comment-11551 Sam Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:39:17 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=1906#comment-11551 I find it interesting that the author is attacking guns instead of asking why the school hired someone with her past record. If instead of using a gun she had waited until the group left the building to run over them with her vehicle. Would the author be recommending we eliminate all vehicles since more people are killed on our highways in car accidents then with guns. I doubt it. I find it interesting that the author is attacking guns instead of asking why the school hired someone with her past record. If instead of using a gun she had waited until the group left the building to run over them with her vehicle. Would the author be recommending we eliminate all vehicles since more people are killed on our highways in car accidents then with guns. I doubt it.

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