Comments on: Siemens and the illusion of CSR and codes of business integrity http://thekaufmannpost.net/siemens-and-the-illusion-of-csr-and-corporate-integrity/ Transparency, corruption and governance matters, evidence-based Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:22:33 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: EDMUND GALKE http://thekaufmannpost.net/siemens-and-the-illusion-of-csr-and-corporate-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-1474 EDMUND GALKE Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:34:33 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=554#comment-1474 ALL OF YOU PEOPLE SEEM TO MISS THE POINT. SIEMENS IS NOT ONLY GUILTY IN MANY AREAS OF BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION, BUT THIER MAJOR CRIME WAS THE USE OF SLAVE AND FORCED LABOR BOTH BEFORE AND DURING WORLD WAR TWO. MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY TO YOUNG TO REMEMBER WORLD WAR TWO, BUT I AM A WORLD WAR TWO VETERAN, AND HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THIER MANY ATROCITIES AGAINST THE POLISH,HUNGARIAN,JEWISH AND MANY OTHER RACES AND ALSO HOMOSEXUALS AND GYPSIES. SIEMENS MADE A FORTUNE IN THESE ACTIVITIES AND THEY DENIED FOR A LONG TIME THIER ACTUAL PARTICIPATION IN THESE HEINOUS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. SIEMENS WAS AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF MANY THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DURING WORLD WAR TWO, AND THEY ARE STILL CONTRIBUTING TO WORLD UNREST BY SELLING EQUIPMENT TO COUNTRIES WHO ARE TRYING TO ASSEMBLE ATOMIC WEAPONS, WITH WHICH TO THREATEN WORLD PEACE. NICE COMPANY. THANK YOU. ALL OF YOU PEOPLE SEEM TO MISS THE POINT. SIEMENS IS NOT ONLY GUILTY IN MANY AREAS OF BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION, BUT THIER MAJOR CRIME WAS THE USE OF SLAVE AND FORCED LABOR BOTH BEFORE AND DURING WORLD WAR TWO. MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY TO YOUNG TO REMEMBER WORLD WAR TWO, BUT I AM A WORLD WAR TWO VETERAN, AND HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THIER MANY ATROCITIES AGAINST THE POLISH,HUNGARIAN,JEWISH AND MANY OTHER RACES AND ALSO HOMOSEXUALS AND GYPSIES. SIEMENS MADE A FORTUNE IN THESE ACTIVITIES AND THEY DENIED FOR A LONG TIME THIER ACTUAL PARTICIPATION IN THESE HEINOUS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

SIEMENS WAS AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF MANY THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DURING WORLD WAR TWO, AND THEY ARE STILL CONTRIBUTING TO WORLD UNREST BY SELLING EQUIPMENT TO COUNTRIES WHO ARE TRYING TO ASSEMBLE ATOMIC WEAPONS, WITH WHICH TO THREATEN WORLD PEACE. NICE COMPANY. THANK YOU.

]]> By: Georg Neumann http://thekaufmannpost.net/siemens-and-the-illusion-of-csr-and-corporate-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-1032 Georg Neumann Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:12:24 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=554#comment-1032 I think key is the measure you mention here: "And more governments and international institutions should be encouraged to publicly list firms they sanction." This shows again the power of simple transparency that we should sometimes promote much stronger as a key element in fighting corruption. And transparency measures also allow for monitoring by the public. Sometimes I am inclined to think that this may be even more effective than monitoring by any official oversight and monitoring mechanism... I think key is the measure you mention here: “And more governments and international institutions should be encouraged to publicly list firms they sanction.”

This shows again the power of simple transparency that we should sometimes promote much stronger as a key element in fighting corruption.

And transparency measures also allow for monitoring by the public. Sometimes I am inclined to think that this may be even more effective than monitoring by any official oversight and monitoring mechanism…

]]> By: …My heart’s in Accra » Bribery is a two-way street http://thekaufmannpost.net/siemens-and-the-illusion-of-csr-and-corporate-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-974 …My heart’s in Accra » Bribery is a two-way street Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:29:32 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=554#comment-974 [...] Kauffman, a scholar of governance at the World Bank and the Brookings Institution, argues that we’ll only see the elimination of corruption when penalties and incentives line up. “What truly raises the cost of bribing will matter, in contrast with PR-friendly measures [...] [...] Kauffman, a scholar of governance at the World Bank and the Brookings Institution, argues that we’ll only see the elimination of corruption when penalties and incentives line up. “What truly raises the cost of bribing will matter, in contrast with PR-friendly measures [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Eyler-Werve http://thekaufmannpost.net/siemens-and-the-illusion-of-csr-and-corporate-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-963 Jonathan Eyler-Werve Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:07:59 +0000 http://thekaufmannpost.net/?p=554#comment-963 Great post, Dani. Agree completely. Blogged here: http://commons.globalintegrity.org/2008/12/siemens-pays-16b-to-settle-bribery-case.html Great post, Dani. Agree completely. Blogged here:

http://commons.globalintegrity.org/2008/12/siemens-pays-16b-to-settle-bribery-case.html

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